Methyldrene Vs Methyldrene Elite: Which Is The Best ECA Stack?
The famed ECA fat burner stack has been around for years helping people lose weight and achieve their goals. However, how we know it now isn’t exactly the same as it used to be. Now instead of taking the whole ECA stack, there are fat burners that contain the ECA stack (as well as other fat burning ingredients) all in a single capsule! Today we’re going over two of those types of fat burners, Methyldrene VS Methyldrene Elite!
What Is An ECA Stack?
As we mentioned, the ECA stack has been around for a while. It stands for Ephedrine, Caffeine and Aspirin, but this was the original ECA stack. Ephedrine has since been regulated for medicinal purposes and is therefore not available for use in dietary supplements. (1)
So how does the ECA stack live on?
Ephedrine is derived from a plant called Ephedra or Ma Huang. This derivative is called an alkaloid. So while the ephedrine alkaloid (and closely related alkaloid) are not permitted to be used in supplements, the rest of the plant can be. And it’s lucky for us, that even without the ephedrine alkaloid, ephedra is considered an effective stimulant and possible weight loss aid. (2) We go more into the differences in this post HERE.
How Do ECA Stacks Work?
When you break down the stack you have 2 central nervous system (CNS) stimulants and a pain reducer. The stimulants, ephedra and caffeine, both increase dopamine and norepinephrine in the brain. These are monoamine or neurotransmitters are important for many functions including the body’s reward system.
In doing so this increases satiation (fullness). (3,4) Additionally, because thermogenesis can be stimulated by CNS stimulants, this combination can aid with burning calories. (5) These are the two main ways that stimulants aid weight loss. But the additional benefits are the mood, focus, and energy enhancement. (4)
This just leaves the aspirin, which plays an important role. Aspirin is a pain reliever and in this stack, it helps prevent monoamines from decreasing. In other words, it helps extend the effects of the stimulants. (6)
Is It Effective?
There have been studies showing the ECA stack being successful for weight loss. However, these results were not significant without dietary changes. Specifically, in one study, without a calorie restriction, the ECA stack alone was not able to produce significant weight loss. (7)
What Are Methyldrene And Methyldrene Elite?
While the ECA stack is great and has been for a while, that’s not our focus today. Both Methyldrene and Methyldrene Elite are fat burners containing ingredients to emblem the classic ECA stack. But they have other ingredients that make them effective weight loss aids too.†
Methyldrene VS Methyldrene Elite: What’s The Same?
We’ve already mentioned how the stimulants caffeine and ephedra affect weight loss earlier in the post. As you can see in the “ECA” Blend on Methyldrene’s label, there is also the ingredient white willow bark. This powder acts similarly to aspirin. (8) This leaves 5 shared ingredients between the two products.
- Citrus Aurantium
- Panax Ginseng
- Cocoa Extract
- Cayenne Pepper
- Yohimbe Extract
Three of which are stimulants: Citrus Aurantium, Cocoa Extract, and Yohimbe. Meaning these ingredients can aid to the appetite suppressing, energy-boosting, thermogenic effects of the other stimulants (9,10,11). Meanwhile Cayenne Pepper can help boost the thermogenic effects, resulting in more calories burned. (12) Finally, Panax Ginseng is a slow-growing root that has been used in Chinese medicine for centuries. Studies suggest ginseng could help improve cognitive functions like memory, social functioning, and mood. (13)
Methyldrene VS Methyldrene Elite: What’s Different?
Although the names are so similar, there are a lot of variations between the two products, from dosages to the actual ingredients. Often, we’re asked which of the Methyldrenes are stronger, and truthfully, that’s hard to answer.
Kind of like comparing Hydroxyelite and Lipodrene, both fat burners are good, and ideal for people looking for specific qualities from their fat burner. The key here is knowing what you want from your fat burner.
Generally, consumers want their fat burner to put in more effort than possible in their weight loss journey. We go over weight loss journeys in depth in this POST. But, to be brief, a fat burner is likely to do a combination of 4 things:
- Promote Thermogenesis
- Boost Energy
- Promote Appetite Suppression
- Improve Mood/Focus
If you remember, we described some of the stimulants above as having all of these traits, that’s because at the heart of most fat burners is several stimulants. But, there are non-stimulatory ingredients that also focus on these properties.†
Methyldrene VS Methyldrene Elite: Dosages
Without further ado, let’s go over how Methyldrene and Methyldrene Elite compare, starting with the dosages of the shared ingredients.
Like we did in the shared ingredients sections, we’ll go through all the stimulants first. It may come as a surprise, but Methyldrene, not Methyldrene Elite, has higher dosages for almost all these stimulants.
Starting from the top, there is 10 more mg of caffeine in Methyldrene Elite than in Methyldrene. Ephedra, however, is equal for both products. The last 3 stimulants, Citrus Aurantium, Cocoa Extract, and Yohimbe are all slightly higher in Methyldrene than in Methyldrene Elite.
Although these values are not significantly different, it is important to note that each of these ingredients are still stimulants. So if you tend to be more sensitive to the effects of stimulants and particularly the side effects, be cautious of these values.
With the non-stimulant shared ingredients the trend continues, Methyldrene has slightly higher doses than Methyldrene Elite. The most significant difference being the reduction in White Willow Extract, or the “aspirin” in the ECA blend.
Finally, we’re going to go over the individualistic ingredients in each product, starting with Methyldrene.
Ginger is a spice and like most spices, ginger may aid in promoting thermogenic properties. Similarly to Cayenne pepper, this means increasing the amount of calories being used or burnt. (14)
Cactus Cladodes Powder
Cactus Cladodes isn’t generally a common ingredient in fat burners. When consumed organically, it may aid in digestion. As a fat burner, however, it may aid in increasing fat excretion in adults. (15)
Green Tea Extract
There is a ton of research showing support for green tea and green tea extract as beneficial for weight loss. It may provide a slight energy boost, but it’s mostly famed as a thermogenic. (16)
Griffonia Seed Extract
Griffonia is a source for the compound 5-HTP, which is a precursor to the neurotransmitter serotonin. For weight loss purposes, Griffonia may increase appetite suppression, while reducing anxiety (17).
MCT Oil is an interesting ingredient to see in a weight loss supplement, as you may not immediately think of “oil” when thinking of weight loss. But, several studies indicate that MCT Oil may be beneficial for weight loss. One possible way is by increasing fullness or appetite suppression. (18) Another way is through energy burning. Your body uses MCT Oil as an instant source of energy, so it’s not likely to be stored as fat. (19)
Bauhinia Purpurea Powder
Bacopa Monnieri Extract
Bacopa Monnieri may promote the reduction in anxiety and improve memory formation. (22)
Black Pepper Extract
Black Pepper Extract is considered a bioavailability enhancer. Meaning it improves the bioavailability of the other ingredients in the formula. (23)
So Which Is Stronger?
Now that we have an idea of what makes each product similar and different, it’s time to clarify which is ideal for you. Both fat burners have just below 300 mg of caffeine, so imagine taking 3 cups of coffee. If you feel like you’d be too jittery, anxious, or uncomfortable with that level of caffeine, neither of these products are suitable for you. Additionally, please note, caffeine is not the only stimulant in these formulas. But it makes a good reference point.
In addition to caffeine, Methyldrene has around 130 mg more stimulants while Methyldrene Elite has around 109 mg more. Although all stimulants are not created equal, it wouldn’t be a stretch to say Methyldrene is going to be better suited for people looking for more energy. More stimulants generally mean more thermogenesis, appetite suppression, and all of that.
But that doesn’t mean Methyldrene Elite is out of the game. Methyldrene Elite does have the Bacopa Monnieri and at higher dose than Methyldrene’s Griffonia Seed Extract. So it may be better for mood and focus support. Additionally the Black Pepper Extract can help ramp up the ingredients without having to increase the doses. The consequence of this is that we can’t compare it easily. Everyone’s experience can and will be different not just with this ingredient, but with any product.
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